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Brian A (guest) 15 Jun 2011 04:04
in discussion What is Sanctification? / Godliness / Perfection » Nobody's Perfect

Everybody Can Be Perfect… Ephesians 2:5-10, The Issue is how is that accomplished… Most attempt to find it by their personal efforts or thru some formula or process. Others seek to emulate what they perceive to be Perfection…But emulation is condemned as a work of the flesh.. Galatians 5:20. It can ONLY be found by submission to the Spirit Galatians 5 clearly describes this with the mechanism found in verses 16 & 17. James speaks to this reality, Ezekial 36:27 expresses it, and the most explicit statements are found throughout the book of 1 John. "Nobody's Perfect" is assumptive denial of Spiritual Realities achievable in our fallen world, and a prescription for stunted and weak Christianity. It is the Mantra of those who wish to live as they choose, excuse their faults and marred characters, and expect God will save them in spite of themselves. They will also be quick to shun 4 letter words like Obey and Keep as rank Legalism. "Nobody's Perfect" implies that we have compared everyone to some supposed empirical standard. Just because nobody I know is perfect, doesn't prove "Nobody's Perfect" to be true. Christianity at its core denies "Nobody's perfect" by saying Christ was perfect….and then it doesn't stop there but assures us that we too may be perfect "In Christ" and that the life I now live is "Christ in you, the hope of glory."

by Brian A (guest), 15 Jun 2011 04:04
My Top 5
RorySRoryS 12 May 2007 02:26
in discussion Training & Education / Best Books » My Top 5

Book of James, Holy Bible

Celebration of Discipline, Richard J. Foster, Harper, San Francisco, CA. 1978.

The Life You've Always Wanted, John Ortberg, Zondervan, 1997.

So, You Want to be Like Christ?, Charles R. Swindoll, Thomas Nelson Publishing, Nashville, TN. 2005.

The Spirit of the Disciplines, Dallas Willard, Hodder & Stoughton, London, 1988.

These are my top 5 - what are yours? why?

My Top 5 by RorySRoryS, 12 May 2007 02:26

Tom Peters grew so tired of any discussions of Excellence (he felt that the word was overused and people did not understand the real definition that he and Robert Waterman used as a basis for their book) that for a number of years he actually removed it from his vocabulary - that is passion for your beliefs! Tom Peters is as energetic and passionate today as he was 25 years ago (excellence re-entered his vocabulary in 2006).

We worship a God who created us, loved us before we were born, allowed his only Son to die on the cross for our sins…

  • are you at least as passionate about your Christian beliefs as Tom Peters is about excellence?
  • Do you have a passion that drives you to seek out a closer relationship with God?
  • Do you believe that you can achieve excellence in your faith walk?
  • Discipline / consistent process was a hallmark of companies that measured up to the Peters/Waterman criteria - how committed are you to living a disciplined life?
In Search of Excellence by RorySRoryS, 03 May 2007 03:28

My God is an amazing and limitless God. He has exceeded (from Creation forward) and continues to exceed expectations each and every day!

I am sure that I don't fully understand or respect the power of His grace on my life.

If He can perform the greatest of miracles in all our lives, why should we limit His capability to lead us to achieving perfection?

Amazing Grace by RorySRoryS, 03 May 2007 01:30

"All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" - Romans 3:23.

Is sin a permanent barrier to godliness or Christian perfection? If perfection is impractical or even impossible, is there really a need to pursue?

Nobody's Perfect by RorySRoryS, 03 May 2007 01:25

I believe that Excellence is Excellence - whether it is in the secular world or in our Christian walk.

We sometimes hesitate in applying concepts or proven processes from our secular / business lives to our Christian life.
Do we feel that it is wrong to use them?
Do we somehow view our Christian lives & activities as different?
Do we think that the techniques used for process improvement are exclusive of our spiritual pursuits?

Excellence is Excellence by RorySRoryS, 25 Apr 2007 18:06
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